What if the pain you’re fighting isn’t coming from your body at all, but from patterns wired deep inside your brain?
In this powerful conversation, I sit down once again with one of the most impactful thinkers I know, Dr. Daniel Amen, to unpack a truth that changed how I see stress, pain, trauma, and healing. This is his fourth time on the show, and there’s a reason you keep asking for him. Dr. Amen has helped millions of people understand their brains better, including me, and his newest work hit me harder than any book he’s written before.
We go deep into the idea that pain is not just a signal from your body, but a story your brain is telling. Whether it shows up as back pain, anxiety, depression, or chronic stress, the root often lives in specific brain circuits that get hijacked by trauma, unresolved emotion, inflammation, and unhealthy habits. I open up about my own childhood, the stress patterns I still carry, and how those experiences changed my brain in ways I never fully understood until now.
Dr. Amen breaks down the pain HQ loop and explains how emotional pain, physical pain, and even moral or spiritual pain can trap you in cycles of suffering that feel impossible to escape. We talk about adverse childhood experiences, why unresolved rage often turns into chronic pain, and how habits like poor sleep, diet, and suppressed emotions quietly flip genetic switches that impact not just you, but future generations.
But this conversation is not just about understanding the problem. It is about getting out. We walk through the healing loop and the exact tools that calm the brain, raise heart rate variability, and restore control over your nervous system. From diaphragmatic breathing and progressive relaxation to journaling, EMDR, hyperbaric oxygen, and nutritional support, this episode is packed with practical ways to take your power back.
If you have ever felt stuck in your body, your mind, or your emotions, this episode will change how you see yourself. The real question Dr. Amen leaves us with is simple and life-altering: Is what you’re doing right now good for your brain or bad for it? Answer that honestly, and everything starts to shift.
This is one of those episodes you’ll want to listen to more than once and share with someone who’s been carrying pain they cannot explain. Get ready to see healing in a completely new way.
Max out.


